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14 February 2007 @ 03:12 pm
Winchester Paper Trail #5: Valentine Treats  
Once again, cunien pointed out that a significant date was upon us and surely needed celebrating, WPT style. Brain twin powers were at scary levels, and our combined efforts (second verse, same as the first: graphics and layout by cunien, words by hiyacynth) resulted in this bit of strippery goodness:


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pheral: mariner - bloodpheral on February 16th, 2007 12:12 pm (UTC)
Ah, sorry, i should have thought. ::swings you back the other way::

Can i be a pain and pick your brains for a second? Don't worry if you're too busy, or don't want to divulge stuff, but if you can...
Basically i'd love to know how you create your layouts. I did this: http://www.fangirls.me.uk/ for a friend a few months ago, but as you can see it's nowhere near as realistic and tactile as the layouts you are doing. How are you producing the imagery, and shadows? For example, you've got a shadow under the panties that varies in distance, and the fabric of the bed cover (or whatever) showing beneath it. And are you scanning objects, or taking photos?

Like i said, don't sweat it if you're too busy for explanations and such, was just very curious to learn some new skills and thought i'd ask. :P
I'm not made of eyes!: (Spn) Reasearch - the glamorous world ofcunien on February 16th, 2007 02:47 pm (UTC)
'Don't worry if you're too busy, or don't want to divulge stuff, '

Lol! Nope, not really closely guarded secrets. :D

The images are a mixture of things created on photoshop, things I've taken photos of, and stock images and things I've found on google images. The shadows on things like the pants - well, that's a bit of a cheat. The initial plan was that I photograph my own undies, but couldn't find any stripper-y enough, and also, wasn't too keen on the whole world seeing my underwear. So, that is a stock image. Some of the shadows you see in there were already in the image. Other than that, and as a general rule, I just set the layer to 'multiply' and using a big soft brush just faded in my own shadows on a layer beneath the image. If that makes sense.

I guess, with shadows, the trick is to try and think in 3D, and establish where your light source is and be consistent with that. And spend ages fiddling with things. I'm certainly no expert - there are a load of things I could do better, especially on this image, but since it was knocked out pretty quickly I guess I've just got to let it go. lol. I followed that link or yours, and it looks great to me. The only thing I think I would change is to put in a bigger, darker shadow underneath the gun and possibly the bullets. But it's hard though because if you put too much of a shadow in it can look like it's floating. Lol

Sorry about the mammoth reply, and most of it full of un-useful blabber, but really I think what you've done there is great - it's really hard to get everything looking real. I suppose it's just practice really. This is only really the 5th or 6th time I've tried something like this so I'm still learning too!
pheral: supernatural - dean grimacepheral on February 16th, 2007 10:59 pm (UTC)
Nono, mammoth reply very much appreciated! I think you're totally right about the shadows under the bullets and gun, and i'm doing some m&m's for a new graphic i am making, and will be applying the same thoughts... it led to a rather complex discussion between my dad and me tonight about the shape of bullets and their optimum shadow point! It's really helped, and i'm off to fiddle with things now.

I'm surprised to hear you do some of the shadowing by hand, i'm crap with freehand stuff. I even have Illustrator and a graphics tablet, but haven't had the time to use either to any great effect. Currently i'm just using Drop Shadow in Photoshop set to Global Light to keep me straight.

Think i might experiment with photographing some things too, scanning is eclipsing things rather and there might be no reason for that.

Thanks tons for the info and comments, it's great to talk over stuff like this with someone else experimenting too! :D